Is Being Gay A Sin?

IS BEING GAY A SIN?

By Tim Finley

This article contains both bad and Good News. You will learn that most world religions consider the act of homosexuality a sin. You will also learn that among knowledgeable Christians homosexuality is not considered a “bigger” sin than stealing a pencil from work, nor is it a “smaller” sin than murder. In Christianity – sin is sin.

The most important lesson you will learn is that in Christianity, all sins were paid for on a cross by God, who came into the world in the form of a human being, and who died on that cross because of his love for all mankind.

A great place to begin is by presenting you with a short, yet very profound story that appeared in Pastor, Professor, Author Dr. Steve Brown’s latest book titled Three Free Sins, God’s Not Mad at You. This story is very insightful.

I got a call this morning, which was passed on to me after first going through two staff people. The man who called was quite upset because he had heard a broadcast where I told the story of having two lesbians as my guests on a television show I did a number of years ago.

The man asked me if I would allow those lesbians into my church. “Well,” I replied, “I think the church is a good place for sinners. They took me in.”

“Don’t you care about the purity of the church?” he asked.

“Of course I do. I just haven’t found one yet.”

“Mine is.”

“Great!” I said. “I assume, then, that you’ve kicked out all the fat people, the greedy people, the lustful men, and those cantankerous folks. And you’re the only one left.”

That’s when the conversation turned bad and he hung up. After I got over my anger, I felt so very sad. I wasn’t sad because he was self-righteous or a pharisee. I’m pretty good at that myself. I was sad because he can’t know the supernatural power and joy of forgiving someone who needs it.

The true story that you just read is very typical of how many Christian people are more condemning than Jesus Christ.

In my book, titled JESUS CHRIST Is the EASY and ONLY Way to HEAVEN, I stated that homosexuality is a sin. Many people have criticized me for making such a judgmental statement. A sin is generally defined as: An act that violates a known moral rule in a religion. I am using the term “sin” as it is defined worldwide, and because most major world religions believe that homosexuality is a sin, my opinion is shared globally. You may consider me a bigot, but millions agree with me.

I don’t feel qualified to use anything other than the Christian Old and New Testaments as my authority for what is right and wrong. If you have a better source, please let me know and I will consider changing. In the meantime, I will continue using the written Word (the Holy Bible) of the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob as my moral authority.

What the Christian Bible says about homosexuality

Genesis 2:24 – This explains why a man leaves his father and mother and is joined to his wife, and the two are united into one.

NOTE: Although this verse does not address homosexuality per se’, it is a good point to begin by emphasizing that God made a man named Adam to be married to a woman named Eve.

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Genesis 19:1-13 – That evening two angels came to the entrance of the city of Sodom. Lot was sitting there, and when he saw them, he stood up to meet them. Then he welcomed them and bowed with his face to the ground. “My lords,” he said, “come to my home to wash your feet, and be my guests for the night. You may then get up early in the morning and be on your way again.”

“Oh no,” they replied. “We’ll just spend the night out here in the city square.”

But Lot insisted, so at last they went home with him. Lot prepared a feast for them, complete with fresh bread made without yeast, and they ate. But before they retired for the night, all the men of Sodom, young and old, came from all over the city and surrounded the house. They shouted to Lot, “Where are the men who came to spend the night with you? Bring them out to us so we can have sex with them!”

So Lot stepped outside to talk to them, shutting the door behind him. “Please, my brothers,” he begged, “don’t do such a wicked thing. Look, I have two virgin daughters. Let me bring them out to you, and you can do with them as you wish. But please, leave these men alone, for they are my guests and are under my protection.”

“Stand back!” they shouted. “This fellow came to town as an outsider, and now he’s acting like our judge! We’ll treat you far worse than those other men!” And they lunged toward Lot to break down the door.

But the two angels reached out, pulled Lot into the house, and bolted the door. Then they blinded all the men, young and old, who were at the door of the house, so they gave up trying to get inside.

Meanwhile, the angels questioned Lot. “Do you have any other relatives here in the city?” they asked. “Get them out of this place—your sons-in-law, sons, daughters, or anyone else. For we are about to destroy this city completely. The outcry against this place is so great it has reached the LORD, and he has sent us to destroy it.”

NOTE: This story is commonly used as a story condemning homosexuality, but it never clearly identifies homosexuality as the sin for which Sodom was destroyed. In Ezekiel 16:49-50 the specific sin for which Sodom was destroyed is identified as arrogance and apathy towards the poor.

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Ezekiel 16:49-50 – “Sodom’s sins were pride, gluttony and laziness, while the poor and needy suffered outside her door. She was proud and committed detestable sins, so I wiped her out, as you have seen.”

NOTE: God did say in this passage that Sodom committed detestable sins, so you must make a decision as to whether he was referring to sexual sins in addition to the sins of pride, gluttony and laziness.

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Leviticus 18:22 – “Do not practice homosexuality, having sex with another man as with a woman. It is a detestable sin.”

NOTE: This verse needs no further explanation.

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Leviticus 20:13 – “If a man practices homosexuality, having sex with another man as a woman, both men have committed a detestable act. They must both be put to death, for they are guilty of a capital offense.”

NOTE: This verse speaks for itself.

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Romans 1:26-27 – That is why God abandoned them to their sexual desires. Even the women turned against the natural way to have sex and instead indulged in sex with each other. And the men, instead of having normal sexual relations with women, burned with lust for each other. Men did shameful things with other men, and as a result of this sin, they suffered within themselves the penalty they deserved.

NOTE: Self-explanatory.

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1 Corinthians 6:9-10 – Don’t you realize that those who do wrong will not inherit the Kingdom of God? Don’t fool yourselves. Those who indulge in sexual sin, or who worship idols, or commit adultery, or are male prostitutes, or practice homosexuality, or are thieves, or greedy people, or drunkards, or are abusive, or cheat people – none of these will inherit the Kingdom of God.

NOTE: Yes, according to the Bible homosexuality is sin.

No desire to be politically correct

I realize it is not politically correct for me to state that homosexuality is a sin, but I do not have the arrogance to set the standard for God’s law – nor does society – so throw political correctness out the window.

Some people say homosexuality is not something that is inborn, yet many homosexuals swear they were born gay. I have many gay friends who say they were born gay, and I refuse to call them liars. Therefore, I will accept what they say as truth. However, whether or not it is inborn is not a factor if God says it is a sin. Furthermore, the Bible states we are all sinners.

Romans 3:23 – For everyone has sinned; we all fall short of God’s glorious standard.

God forgave you and your gay neighbor

Jesus died for all sins including homosexuality, adultery, and even murder!

If you are one of those who believe Jesus Christ died on a cross as payment for your gossiping about your homosexual neighbor, but that his death was not effective enough to forgive that neighbor, you don’t thoroughly understand salvation. God forgave gossips and gays.

Romans 2:1 - You may think you can condemn such people, but you are just as bad, and you have no excuse! When you say they are wicked and should be punished, you are condemning yourself, for you who judge others do these very same things.

In the verse you have just read Paul was emphatically stressing that we have all sinned repeatedly, and there is no way apart from Christ to be saved from sin’s consequences.

As a Christian evangelist, when I make the statement: “Jesus died for all sins including homosexuality, adultery, and even murder,” I am not passing moral judgment on anyone. My point is that Jesus’ death on the Cross was the propitiation for all behavior that is considered sinful in the Christian faith.

As a Christian evangelist, the most common objection I hear regarding God’s comprehensive unmerited forgiveness is the objection that God forgives homosexuality, adultery, and murder. This is because most people consider these three as “big” sins. Folks understand how “smaller” sins can be forgiven, but they cannot wrap their arms or minds around God’s forgiveness the way God wraps his forgiveness around us.

Most people, especially those who are Christians (and members of other religious faiths) believe that certain sins such as homosexuality or murder are more severe in God’s eyes than a sin of something so simple as stealing a pencil from work. In our miniscule minds that makes sense, but according to James 2:10 all sins are equal.

James 2:10 - For the person who keeps all of the laws except one is as guilty as a person who has broken all of God’s laws.

James is reminding us that we are all sinners as the result of the sin of Adam and Eve in the Garden of Eden, which is referred to by Christians as the original sin. The Bible states that because of this original sin that we are all born as sinners. The term used to describe this inborn sin is imputed sin. Imputed sin is the bad news, but you will soon learn the Good News. Read on.

The “Good News”

The Good News that I promised earlier is: because God loved us all so much, he came to earth in the form of a man, and he died on a cross to pay for the sins of all mankind. This includes all of the past, present, and future sins of everyone everywhere. This means that everything you have ever done, that is not pleasing to God, has been forgiven – everything. It also means that everything you are doing or ever will do has been forgiven.

Because God did this for you and me I try my very best to be a good Christian by adhering to the moral standards set forth in the Bible and the moral teaching I receive from the Holy Spirit, who lives in all Christians. When the Holy Spirit instructed me to write the book – I did. There were times when I didn’t feel like writing a book, but I couldn’t resist. The Holy Spirit was very kind and gentle, but firm.

If you have trusted Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior, the Holy Spirit now permanently lives in you as your personal counselor. This is commonly referred to as “born again”, “converted”, and/or “saved”, which guarantees that you will go to Heaven. That is the most important thing that can be done in a person’s life because it is eternal.

A few paragraphs ago you read 1 Corinthians 6:9-10, which is very scary and condemning. It stated that many of us will not inherit the Kingdom of God because most of us have indulged in sexual sin, have worshiped idols such as money, committed adultery, are greedy, are drunkards, etc. However, now let’s read the verse that immediately follows 1 Corinthians 6:9-10.

1 Corinthians 6:11 - Some of you were once like that. But you were cleansed; you were made holy; you were made right with God by calling on the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God.

Now let’s read the verse that immediately follows the one you just read. It summarizes what we Christians call Grace, and it is cool.

1 Corinthians 6:12 - You say, “I am allowed to do anything” – but not everything is good for you. And even though “I am allowed to do anything,” I must not become a slave to anything.

As Christians we are allowed to do anything, but there are consequences. If we attempt to follow the tenets of the Bible and the prompting of the Holy Spirit the consequences are rewarding. Sure a Christian can smoke, but be prepared for deadly health consequences. If you are a homosexual, you should prepare yourself to be cruelly criticized by both Christians and non-Christians. This is one just one of the possible consequences. Judgment by other humans is part of being human.

God’s moral guidelines were created for us because they are what are best for us. God is so colossal I am certain he can handle our transgressions, but we are the ones who suffer the consequences.

The bottom line

Romans 8:1 - So now there is no condemnation for those who belong to Christ Jesus.

This verse declares Christians – Not Guilty. Jesus, by way of his finished work on the Cross, has paid the price for our sins and he has offered us the freedom to live our lives in a way that are either pleasing to our flesh or pleasing to his Spirit, which resides in us as Christians.

I suggest that if you haven’t accepted Jesus Christ as your Savior that you do that right now. Of the thousands of Christians that I have met, none has said they regret it.

The sinner’s prayer

Although it is a person’s faith alone in Jesus’ finished work that saves us, many Christians say a prayer as their acknowledgement. This can be done aloud or silently. It can be said publicly or privately, but however it is done it is not the intellectual content of the prayer, but it’s sincerity. Say something like this…

“God, I have been told that you came to earth in the form of a man and died on a cross as payment for my sins. Many people saw you come back from being dead, which proved you are God and that you can overcome death. I want to live eternally with you, and I want you to live in me while I am here on earth. I am now sincerely accepting Jesus as my Lord and Savior, and I am praying that over time I will learn more and more about him. Amen.”

The Bible says that because you acknowledged Jesus as Lord and Savior you have been converted (also known as born Spiritually, saved, and born again). The term that is used is not important. What is important is that you will spend eternity in Heaven. Congratulations!

LEARN THE TRUTH!

BAD NEWS: Many Christian denominations have convoluted the simplicity of Christian salvation. Most people believe that good people go to Heaven and bad people go to Hell. According to the Bible – this is NOT true.

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86 Thoughts on “Is Being Gay A Sin?

  1. jenny on July 14, 2014 at 7:00 pm said:

    I’m really confused about this thing. I’ve been looking for answers and don’t know where to find them. I love God and I have accepted Jesus as my savior. I want to follow him and do good works to please him. But the thing is I’m lesbian and I’m inlove with my girlfriend. I know that God loves us no matter what and He will forgiveus of anything we’ve done. I really want to follow his words but since I’m lesbian, I’ve always thought that it is bad and a sin based on what people are saying so I think of myself as a bad person and I have no rights to be a child of God. Will God still accept me even if I’m a lesbian that really loves someone not because of lust but because of true love? I’m really thankful for writing about this topic. I hope you would response to clarify my thoughts and be a true follower of God.

    • Tim Finley on July 15, 2014 at 9:47 am said:

      Jenny,

      The answer is too long to place on this site. That is why I wrote a book about it. The book will be available to purchase in about three weeks. It is almost 300 pages that measure 7 X 10, and contains almost 1000 Bible verses. It is easy to read and understand. The price will be $14.95, which is very low concerning the amount of information it contains and the quality of the book. My calling is as an evangelist, so royalties are used to further the Kingdom of God. We give books to many who cannot afford them, so if you cannot afford to purchase the book, please send me your street address, which will remain confidential, and when the book is published I will send you a copy free. Thanks for visiting our site, and please tell your friends about it.

      Tim Finley

    • Dear Jenny,

      I am gay and have been struggling with the same issues as yourself. The Bible is complex and needs to be read in its cultural context as I believe there was no such thing as “homosexual” activity back then as we know it today.
      Most of the time it is used as either pagan sex or rape. You need to remember that God is Love, and Jesus was God incarnate and we are to use him as our example on how to live a good life.
      We were born this way, and if we are in a monogamous, loving relationship I see no problem.
      I would read Romans 13:8-10.
      Jesus is my personal Saviour and I pray in tongues and I see no problem with being gay and Christian. The Church needs to move on regarding this topic as it’s tiresome.

      • Hi Jon,

        Thanks for your input, but please remember – it is your input and it lacks Biblical depth. I have spent three decades as a Christian evangelist, have written two books, started ministries, been involved in the administration of several ministries, and study the Bible constantly. Sadly, many people like to give just their opinion, or use a favorite verse or two to either justify what they are doing, or to condemn what someone else is doing. We MUST use all of Scripture.

        My book contains 1000 Bible verses to explain what most people don’t know because they were either taught incorrectly, or not taught at all. I will be happy to send you a FREE book if you send me your address in a personal confidential email message. I am offering it free because I don’t want you to think I am trying to sell you a book just for the money. Ours is a non-profit ministry devoted to furthering God’s Kingdom. If you read my book, you will know the truth, the entire truth, and nothing but the truth regarding this topic.

        In Christian love,

        Tim Finley

  2. Makayla on May 13, 2014 at 5:12 pm said:

    i’m a 15 year old black girl,(almost 16), who’s been raised that homosexuality is a sin. but now lately, I’ve discovered that when I think about certain girls and guys equally, I get tingly down “there”. Now, I feel like i’m in big trouble and i’m all messed up. furthermore, my mind is spinning going back and forth between being gay is a sin, and people saying “no there’s nothing wrong with that, if you believe in Jesus, you will be saved.” Now, whenever I go to church, I can’t help to feel a little empty inside, like God’s left me. the bible said that practicing homosexuality is a sin, but I’ve never had sex or dated a girl, yet I have those thoughts. so am I going to hell or not? someone please help!

    • Tim Finley on May 14, 2014 at 8:07 pm said:

      Makayla,

      I am not a counselor who addresses situations regarding one’s sexuality, so must refrain from addressing your particular problem. Because you are an adolescent, I suggest you talk with your parents, pastor, school counselor, or physician regarding your confusion.

      I am sorry I could not be of more assistance.

      In Christian love,

      Tim Finley

    • Andrew on July 2, 2014 at 4:24 pm said:

      Makayla:

      you are very young, and still learning who you are. I would talk with your parents about it. But no that it is ok to feel the way you do. when you are at church ask God to help you find the answer you are looking for.

      No matter what you do God will love you endlessly. I do not see anything wrong with homosexulitly.

      • Andrew,

        Although I appreciate your concern for Makayla, I certainly hope she realizes you are not speaking for God when you stated, “I do not see anything wrong with homosexuality.”

        Tim Finley

    • Anonymous on July 12, 2014 at 11:31 pm said:

      Bottom line God does love everyone, being gay is a sin, God will not allow homosexuals into heavan because he said it is an abomination. Also a lot of people think they will make it to heavan straight and gay who will not. The devil is the great deceiver and God made the rules no matter how bad we all want to change them. He is the creator we are the servants. You and dislike the truth all day but at the end the truth is just that.

      • Tim Finley on July 13, 2014 at 1:01 pm said:

        Dear anonymous,

        I respect your devotion to the Lord, but I cannot believe you consider homosexuality as an unforgiveable sin. My Bible says Jesus’ shed Blood was propitiation for all sin of all mankind. Are you saying that Jesus’ crucifixion was only applicable to some, but not to all? We are all born sinners, and that includes you, my friend. How about sharing with us what your sins are, and why you consider yourself to be less of a sinner than anyone else. That is what I call “self-righteous.”

        In the first chapter of my book, I shared my horrible sinful nature so that nobody can refer to me as a hypocrite. I am a horrible human, but have been saved by God’s super, abundant, radical, undeserved, amazing grace. The more grace I receive, the more devotion I have to Jesus.

        Keep studying your Bible and prayerfully you will begin to understand the power of the Blood of Jesus.

        Tim Finley

  3. I LOVE YOU on April 21, 2014 at 5:27 pm said:

    I DON’T JUDGE GAYS OR ANYONE ELSE…I CANT PUT ANYONE IN HEAVEN OR HELL, SO I DON’T GO AROUND TELLING PEOPLE THAT THEY’RE GOING TO BURN IN HELL FOR BEING GAY….BUT THE BIBLE IS RIGHT…THOSE SCRIPTURES WILL NEVER CHANGE REGARDLESS OF HOW THEY MAKE YOU OR I FEEL. ..IF WE ARE ABLE TO READ AND UNDERSTAND GOD’S WORD THEN IT IS OUR CHOICE TO OBEY OR NOT… REMEMBER WHAT JESUS SAID “THE WORDS THAT HE HAS SPOKEN, THE SAME WILL JUDGE US IN THE LAST DAY (JOHN 12:48)…IF WE WANT TO REJECT THE TEACHINGS OF JESUS AND LIVE ACCORDING TO OUR “FEELINGS” THEN THAT IS OUR CHOICE, AND WE WILL FACE THE OUTCOME OF IT…WE ALL STRUGGLE WITH OUR SINFUL NATURE, BUT GOD HAS GIVEN US A WAY TO RISE ABOVE IT AND FIGHT BACK THROUGH HIS WORD…GOD WANTS EVERYONE TO BE SAVED..HE HAS GIVEN US EVERYTHING WE NEED TO MAKE THAT POSSIBLE..LET’S NOT GUIDE OURSELVES THROUGH LIFE WITH OUR OWN PERSPECTIVES OF WHAT WE “FEEL” IS RIGHT IN OUR HEARTS,BECAUSE IT IS NOT IN US TO DIRECT OUR OWN PATH IN LIFE (JERMIAH 10:23)..SO WHAT DOES ALL THIS MEAN??… IT MEANS THAT GOD DOES TRULY LOVE ALL OF US REGARDLESS OF SEXUAL ORIENTATION, BUT HE WILL NOT CHANGE HIS WORD TO ACCOMADATE OUR DESIRES SHOULD THEY CONTRADICT HIS DIRECT TEACHING AND HE WILL NOT CHANGE THE CONSEQUENCES FOR THOSE WHO DONT FOLLOW HIS TEACHINGS…HOPE THIS HELPS..GOD BLESS

    • Thanks for your reply. I agree, and disagree. We should attempt to follow the Holy Spirit who lives in all Christians (A person is not a Christian if not indwelt by the Holy Spirit). However, it is impossible to live a sinless life. That is why God came to earth in the form of a man to die on a cross to pay for the sins of all mankind. The Bible tells us that we are all sinners, and that we can all receive eternal life if we accept Jesus as Savior. Jesus didn’t exclude those who live a homosexual lifestyle, any more than he excluded someone who cheats on his income tax.

    • Anonymous on July 12, 2014 at 11:35 pm said:

      Good job, it dose’nt matter what “I ” think but what his said.

      • Tim Finley on July 13, 2014 at 1:07 pm said:

        HERE IS WHAT JESUS SAID:

        “For this is how God loved the world: He gave his one and only Son, so that everyone who believes in him will not perish but have eternal life. God sent his Son into the world not to judge the world, but to save the world through him.

        There is no judgment against anyone who believes in him. But anyone who does not believe in him has already been judged for not believing in God’s one and only Son.” John 3:16-18

        ALL WHO BELIEVE HAVE BEEN JUDGED “NOT GUILTY.”

        Tim Finley

  4. God created us all. He still loves us even if we are homosexual, bisexual, lesbian, or straight. I do not believe that being gay is a sin because God will still love us no matter what. Your sexual orientation does not matter; it does not form who you are. I had looked this up to see the Bible’s perspective on it, but you know what, I realized that God loves me for me, and he loves everyone. Even gay people. Being gay is not wrong.

  5. Scott on March 7, 2014 at 10:41 pm said:

    The big issue I have with certain Bible verses and articles about homosexuality is that they aren’t realistic. Gays don’t hate God, have orgies, kill people, etc… they are EXACTLY like everyone else except they find the same sex attractive. I have been an avid follower of Christ and the Bible ever since I can remember and some of the comments made here are very discouraging for a developing teenager who is trying to maintain a healthy relationship with God. I love God with all my heart and accept Jesus as my savior but then people say things like “Well if you are gay then you are going to hell!” What have I done to deserve this? I never chose to be gay, to the shock of many, and have prayed for years to be straight and normal. I’m just like everyone else, I volunteer time at food banks, go to church, youth group, and partake in other average Christian activities but because of something I’m born with I’m just this terrible sinner who should be put to death? However, I would like to thank the many who has posted stories and personal experiences with homosexuality and Christianity as they are very inspiring. Hopefully more Christians realize that gays are alien monsters hellbent on destroying civilization but regular people who are just like everyone else. After all, the only different between straights and gays is that one is condemned for having one incredibly human feeling bestowed upon us by God…..love. I guess I like to think that perhaps God won’t punish us for something we have no power in controlling. :\

  6. Anonymus,

    I’m glad you asked that. The phrase “repent of sin” is not Biblical. It has been twisted and turned by Satan to the point people believe it. My next book “WILL GAYS GO TO HEAVEN?” is in it’s final edit and will be available in about 6 weeks. In that book, I devote a very lengthy chapter to the topic of repentance. In short, a person is saved permanently by placing his or her faith in Jesus’ finished work on the Cross. At the very moment a person believes, he or she is indwelt by the Holy Spirit, and is sealed. That is what saves – not repenting of sin. Repent comes from the Greek word “metanoia” which means change of mind. In the Bible it is used to warn folks to turn from believing they can be saved by the Law to being saved by faith in the Messiah. The important question is, “Have you been born again?” If you have, you will go to Heaven. If you haven’t, you will go to Hell. Very simple. You make the decision as to where you will spend eternity by either accepting or rejecting Jesus.

  7. Anonymus on February 22, 2014 at 10:20 pm said:

    I need a response. What is this person and bible saying are they saying that u have to repent or that u can be homosexual lesbian bisexual ect or that u can be homosexual but u have to repent? I need a repons fast thanks u all for your responses

    • Andrew on July 2, 2014 at 4:56 pm said:

      I dont understand repent and saved stuff so my view, as long as you belive in God and do good works you are fine.

      • Andrew,

        Your statement here leaves a lot to be desired. The Biblical term “repent” means to cease depending on “good works” and trust only in Jesus for your salvation. I will pray that you find a Bible believing church and begin to study God’s Word for a better understanding of his kingdom. I hope you have been born again.

        Tim Finley

  8. I am currently with a female and we decided that we did not want to get married because God states in his word that marriage is between a man and a woman and who are we to go against God’s word. However, we do love the Lord and try our best to follow his commandments but no one is perfect but Jesus Christ himself. We tried to separate and be with the opposite sex but since day one i feel that she is my soulmate and we were meant for eachother. I feel that homosexuality is a sin if youre having sex with that person. The bible clearly states that having sex with the same sex is a sin. So my girlfriend and I dont have sex and just simply love eachother because the Lord is all about Love and its NOT a sin to love someone but it is a sin when you start acting on sexual desires.ITS NOT EASY BUT THE LORD SAYS IT WILL BE WORTH IT

    GODBLESS YOU

  9. I’ve looked all over, I really have. Looking for answers to homosexuality is like looking for computer solutions; I get responses like “Have you turned your computer off and back on?” and “Is it plugged in?” Yet the problem persists. I’m just not entirely sold on this.

    Quick backstory: I grew up mostly in the Christian church. We were non-denominational, but my mother grew up baptist, I believe. I grew up believing in God, in Jesus, but something always felt wrong. I always felt wrong, like there was something different or off about me. I was never like the other boys—but I wasn’t like the girls, either. Most sports bored me, though I give me some roller-blades and I can grind over a mailbox. I was always heavily into my imagination and loved fantasy stories, anything involving an epic battle between good and evil (I think those Disney films were my introduction to that). I didn’t have a “broken home” or bad parents. They’re not perfect, but I have a dad who loves us and shows it in how hard he worked for us. I have a mother who loves us and introduced us to the Holy Spirit—though it never took with me. I’m the middle child of three children, and my brother and sister always “took up more space” than me. There was always trouble with them, always something crazy, and I was the good son who read his books and did his homework. I’ve never smoked, never drank, still a virgin, never even been kissed (the most “touchy” I’ve been with someone is a high-five). I’ve lied before, repented for those lies (particularly recently, I realized being honest with people saves me the trouble, even if the truth hurts). I’m no thief, never killed.

    But I’m gay.

    I don’t know how many Christians really get to see this on a personal level, so I’ll be that guy. I can’t speak for everyone claiming to be a part of the LGBTQ community (I don’t know much about it myself; I barely leave my house these days when not working, let alone meet up with people), and I can’t say anything really about transgendered folks, or people who cross-dress. I’m not one of those effeminate, limp-hand guys, I’m just me… and happen to like men. Not sure why, and you can bet I spent most of my youth praying earnestly and even fasting in the hope that that one verse about God changing our hearts would come true, and my heart would be changed. No bueno, I’m still gay. Worse, that verse in Romans doesn’t seem to describe me. I never turned away from God and pursued darkness. I realized I was gay at the age of 12 (I don’t think I was attracted to anything before that, to be honest), and I don’t think any of you would believe that 12-year-old me was this sinning, fornicating drugee who cried “Curse ye, God!” to the heavens while shooting up heroin in the middle of a sex orgy. 12-year-old me played video games and despaired over increasing academic demands—that’s it. At what point did God abandon me to sexual immortality because of some great sin of mine?

    Another problem I have. Sin is defined as an act of transgression in divine law—the key word there is “act”. Unlike murder, theft, and adultery, homosexuality isn’t really an act, not for me. Murder: You bash someone upside the head until they’re dead, thus an act. Theft: When you’re friend isn’t looking, you slip his holographic Pokemon card into your pocket, thus an act. Adultery: When one of your more voluptuous students asks you for one-on-one tutoring after class, you lock the door and do the do, thus an act. However, the only action I’m currently committing is pressing keys to type this message. I’ve got music playing in one tab and this website in the other, sitting on my bed, lazing around on my off day. When I read the bible’s take on homosexuality and scour forums, discussion boards, and websites about it, I come to the conclusion that most Christians view gay as an action, when it is not (at least, not for me). It is a state of being. It’s not a transgression that I can repent for, as I haven’t even had sex or kissed someone. I haven’t *done* anything, I’m simply being, and I certainly didn’t *choose* to find men desirable. A drunkard who drowns himself in ale must lay his iniquity on the cross and repent—in other words, throw out the Captain Morgan’s and stockpile of Heineken. A heroin addict must lay his iniquity on the cross, repent and toss out those needles. An adulterer has to confront his problem and ask God to heal his heart, stay faithful. But what of the gay man? What of me? I have nothing to atone for but thoughts I didn’t ask for, things I never wanted to want but can never have? I want to be cherished, to be loved, to hold someone’s hand and share smiles that breach infinity, but according to the bible, I can only find this joy with a woman—I can’t look at a woman and “get it up” if you catch my drift. Neither do I plan on living alone in the woods, separate from society so that I never sin, forced to be chaste my entire life (I’m far too good-lucking and amiable of a person to do that).

    If being gay is a sin, where is the off-switch?

  10. You really make it seem so easy with your presentation but I find this matter to be actually something
    which I think I would never understand. It seems too complex and very broad for me.
    I’m looking forward for your next post, I’ll try to
    get the hang of it!

  11. Anonymous Minister on September 27, 2013 at 3:53 am said:

    Just some simple thoughts to share with everyone… Since Jesus came, we are living under the day of grace. He came to fulfill the law not to keep us under the law. There are many laws from the Old Testament that many people like to pick and choose from, but actually we are not under the law for it was impossible to follow. The New Testament brought about a change and a hope for all mankind, including those that are attracted to the same sex. Some people say it’s an evil spirit that needs to be cast out etc. But I have been a Christian for many years and a Pastor also did missions work. I have seen many people that were gay and lesbian want to love God, but they felt they could not because many rejected it as a terrible sin. Some committed suicide because they could not stand the pressure… is this from God? No of course not! If you study medical facts, 1 out of about every 500 to 1000 children are born with mixed chromosomes or dna. It is a medical fact that many children are born partially hermaphrodite (nevertheless many times it is unknown because only the xy or xyy etc. chromosomes show that the child is partially mixed in gender.) What do we do with these children? If they are born somewhat mixed… and if it really is 1 out of every 500… that means in the world today we have 14,000,000 people that are sinning just to marry either sex. Is God that shallow? He made us and this world is infected by the fall of man… God has constantly, out of mercy, allowed us to try our best to follow Him even when we are not perfect, because it is only by Jesus blood that we are made perfect! Abraham married many women, and God blessed him. David a man after God’s own heart had more wives than we should care to count… and God loved and blessed him. David also funnily enough… kissed his best friend Jonathan and their loved “surpassed the love of women.” Why do we overlook these things? When we put God first in our lives… yes people may criticize… but people also criticize coke and pepsi and tastes of food and styles of clothes… they even criticized Jesus the very Son of God… in fact they hated Him so much they killed Him… being gay and Christian??? yes… many will hate you, they will criticize you, but if Jesus Christ is first in your life… then you have every right to love one other person… no matter the sex. God looks on us now in the New Testament as no different between Jew, nor Greek, male nor female… promiscuity is forbidden and sinful lifestyles are forbidden of changing of partners and committing fornication… but if you have fallen in love and have made that lifetime commitment with one partner, then there is therefore now no condemnation to those who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit. We would never accuse a man that loves his wife to be walking after the flesh… so why should we condemn a man that loves his partner with all his heart, or a woman that loves her partner with all her heart? The scriptures in the New Testament when referring to homosexuality should be studied in context… temple idolatry, sexual promiscuity, worshipping of sexual deities, prostitution etc. But never does the New Testament condemn one person loving another person in a committed relationship. The one scripture above that was used saying “homosexuality” will not inherit the kingdom of God, this word was translated from Greek …. arsenokenite… the only word Paul knew to use in this case, the translation “homosexual” did not even come about for many hundreds of years after Paul wrote this scripture… when Paul wrote this, He wrote of the heathen worshippers of false Gods and the evil that entailed in the temples of the Romans and Greeks… never did Paul see those that truly loved Christ with all their hearts and also being “gay or lesbian”. The Scripture in Romans talks of “burning in their lust”…. Christian gays and lesbians are just the same as anyone else… they really can love just ONE partner and not want anyone else. It’s not lust, it is love. There are many books out there about this subject, but I have been writing one myself as well… but one book I remember that really touched my heart was, The Children are Free. I don’t believe a person can just do whatever he wants after salvation and just think you have a enter-free into Heaven card… but I do believe living a holy life before Christ is the answer, but I also believe that there are many god-fearing Jesus-loving partnered gays that want to live and work for God and are doing so and winning others to Christ.
    God bless you… and may you find your way in Christ… never give up… don’t allow Satan to take the joy of Christ from you!

    • What is your books name that you have written?! Would clearly like to buy it. I am confused. I’m in love with a woman and so is she with me. Her mother told her it is a sin and she will go to hell, she says she is in a struggle,because she believes and feels deep inside her that it is ok, now she wants to study deeper in things. I say peoples opinions differ. The Holy Host living in me, for me it is I will feel when something is wrong it will bother me. Ot of stuff I feel is wrong, like if I drank too much or or, but never have I felt it is wrong with another woman. We both love each other! we are commited and share everything. So would like to buy your book. Thanks for the good explanations!

  12. Being gay should not be a sin, people should be able to love who they want. Even if that means with the same sex.

    • Anonymous on September 6, 2013 at 11:33 pm said:

      You say it should not be a sin but quite frankly only God can decide that and he has and made it clear. Opposing him or pretence won’t help he is not an idiot. Interesting thing though a bit out of the topic most people say having sex with another man is a choice but isn’t having sex with a women also? Both partners choose to have whether it be same or opposite sex. Either way you sound quite opposed but I’m not fear is what is needed to drive people and not a brainless heart.

      • No offence but I don’t believe God should be the one to decided that males should only love females, or females should only love males. I, Autumn do believe in God, and all that stuff, but I also believe that Gay people should love who ever they want to love, Why would God bring gay people into this world knowing they’ll be a sinner? If he made you in his own image why make gay people gay then? I am strait but my best friends are bisexual and gay but do I care no, they love who ever they want to love! IF YOUR GAY, LOVE WHO EVER YOU WANT TO LOVE!!!!

  13. Anonymous on September 5, 2013 at 10:15 pm said:

    So I read through this article and I’m not really convinced in fact it made my fears even worse. I will be 23 soon and yes I’m gay. But I’ve kept myself away from others for as long as I can remember in the fear that God will punish me for sinning. I don’t have a boyfriend and I probably never will to do a sin and it’s done with is one thing but living you’re entire live in it is another. I’m really lonely and when I see a guy I really like I don’t feel excited instead I feel my heart dropping cause I’m reminded god will punish you. Only way to lift my spirit is to remember that this life is only temporary and I don’t want to burn in hell even if it means that I cannot enjoy God’s greatest gift to man ….. Love

  14. Ambi RR on September 2, 2013 at 3:36 pm said:

    I am a lesbian myself and also christian. I do belive in god and his plan for us all. I was born with this desire and sometimes I wish I was never born and I ask god every day and night why did he bring me into this world knowing I will be a sinner, knowing this sin is something I cannot control and I have tried many times its always there. I am greatful I found this website it really helped me out. I brought the book as well and will start reading it. Now I don’t have to think that god is discusted by me and assamed by me. It is very hard being surrounded by many ppl includeing my family who juge me and tell me every day that I will burn in hell for my sin of being lesbian. I know im wrong but it is a desire I feel is out of my control and I know i will suffer the consiquenses the day I die. Im aware of my sin but I am also aware of god and his word and I belive in him.

    • See exactly, why would God bring you into this would knowing you would be a sinner? Because he wants you to have a chose on who you love, don’t be afraid of being king gayM

  15. Adam Schwartz on August 29, 2013 at 12:20 am said:

    Thank you all! <3

  16. Nate Redopon on August 29, 2013 at 12:20 am said:

    totally right!

  17. Sara Averns on August 29, 2013 at 12:18 am said:

    Amen. You seem to understand alot at your age Adam. Bless you!

  18. Finally someone who gets it! XD You rock Adam!!

  19. Matt C. on August 29, 2013 at 12:15 am said:

    Agreed. :)

  20. I agree 100% Adam. And I’m straight

    GAYS FOREVER + STRAIGHTS FOREVER = SAME LOVE

  21. Adam Schwartz on August 29, 2013 at 12:11 am said:

    I’m 17 and a proud gay! And I have a strong and proud relationship with God. I see a man and a women and a man and a man as a perfect example of normal human sexuality. Homosexuals take the hit because the outsiders don’t understand that were all the same, were just attracted to the same sex. Most think gays are having sex with everyone, every second, everywhere. And that’s not fair at all when straight people cheat, and divorce and commit adultery. They focus too much on the aspect of how sexual intercourse is achieved by two men or women, and they find it unusual and disgusting.

    GAY + STR8 = Same Love

  22. Is Homosexuality a Sin?
    by Rev. Dr.Kathlyn James
    Lake Washington United Methodist Church
    Kirkland, Washington, 1997

    Last August, we had a special Sunday in church called “Burning Questions,” in which I responded, on an impromptu basis, to written questions from the congregation. At that time, I also promised to preach a series of sermons later in the year that would specifically address the top three, or most-asked questions submitted on that day. I have to admit, I could not have predicted the ‘top three’ questions that would come my way! They were: (1) Is homosexuality a sin? (2) Is there a hell? And (3) How can we forgive? This morning we begin by looking at the first of these: Is homosexuality a sin?
    In preparation for today, I gathered together all the materials I could find on this subject. I gathered official denominational studies on homosexuality and the church — not only the United Methodist study guide, but also documents from the Lutherans, Presbyterians, and the United Church of Christ. I also made a stack of books with titles like Living In Sin? by an Episcopal bishop, and Is the Homosexual My Neighbor? by two evangelicals. I eventually had a stack of books and papers a foot deep on my desk. I spent the next several days reading, making notes, and preparing a line of argument for this morning’s sermon.
    But long about Tuesday of this week, I stopped and asked myself a question. What was my goal — what is my goal, in addressing this topic from the pulpit this morning?

    As your pastor, I know very well that homosexuality is a tender subject among us. It is an issue on which, as Christian people, we have diverse opinions and often very complex feelings. But I also know that this is a real question among us; it is not just a theoretical one. That’s why you raised it. There are parents sitting here this morning who are wondering why their child is gay, does it mean they’ve done something wrong, and has anyone else ever struggled with this. There are gay and lesbian Christians who are active members of the church, but who live in the closet because they don’t want to lose their jobs, their homes, or your friendship and respect.

    There are teenagers here who have contemplated suicide because they suspect they might be gay. Each of us here has our own background, confusion, and experience with this issue. It is time we talked about it.
    My goal, this morning is to open the conversation. And this is the thought that occurred to me on Tuesday: what is the best way to begin the conversation? It’s not by presenting a logical line of argument. That’s how you begin a debate, not a conversation! The best way to begin a conversation, in which you want others to feel free to speak their mind, and no perspective to be silenced, is simply speak from your heart, out of your own experiences.
    So let me set aside my pile of books and papers, this morning, and share with you at least part of my own journey around this issue. In the months ahead, beginning with the “dialogue” time immediately following church today, I invite you to do the same.

    I grew up in an atmosphere of traditional values. My family belonged to a Congregational church in which, week after week, I absorbed a basically mainline Christian theology that emphasized the love of God for all people. I was taught that the most important thing in life is to love God, and to love our neighbors as ourselves. In that environment, oddly enough, I don’t remember one word ever being spoken about homosexuality. I don’t even know when I first heard the term — probably not before high school. When I did, it was not with any heavy overlay of negativity — and in this, I have come to realize, my experience is very different from many people. I did not grow up being told homosexuality was shameful or sordid; I never had a bad experience such as being molested by a person of my own gender. Only as an adult do I realize what a tremendous impact such early experiences have in shaping people’s attitudes toward homosexuality.

    In fact, I had never met a homosexual person, as far as I knew, even into my twenties. This combination of influences meant that my attitude was pretty much “live-and-let-live.” I didn’t see how it hurt anyone, or how it threatened me, if two people of the same sex wanted to love each other and live together.
    What was the big deal?
    It really wasn’t until seminary, when I was thirty years old, that the issue acquired a human face for me. Her name was Sally. I was a commuting student at Vancouver School of Theology, with a job and a husband and three children in Seattle. I drove up to Vancouver on Mondays and came home on Wednesdays, so I needed a place to stay two nights a week. Sally had a studio apartment on campus that she was willing to share in return for prorated rent. Over the next three years, Sally and I became fast friends.

    I had never met anyone like Sally. For one thing, she was much more disciplined in her spiritual life than I was. She got up at 5:00 every morning, which I thought of as an ungodly hour, and left the apartment for a walk or a bike ride, during which she would pray. She bought all her clothes at Goodwill and had only five changes of clothing and two pairs of shoes in the closet. She spent several days a week volunteering in a soup kitchen downtown. She kept a prayer journal. Basically, she put me to shame. But the most appealing thing about Sally was that she loved God. She laughed easily, loved life, loved people, was funny and fun. One night, as we were going to bed–each of us in a single bed lined against the wall, our heads in the corners and our feet toward each other –she asked if I wanted to pray. I had never prayed with another person before–at least, not like that, opening our inner lives before God, in each other’s presence–and at first I was halting and shy. But over time we made a habit of praying together, and it was in the course of those years of praying, of being honest with ourselves as possible in the presence of God, that Sally came out to herself as gay.

    It was no problem for me that Sally was discovering this–and I have to add here, that like most people, Sally discovered her sexual orientation; it wasn’t something she decided. Isn’t that true for you, that your sexual orientation is something that just seems “given”? It wasn’t as if Sally woke up one morning and thought, “All things being equal, I think I’d like to be a member of a despised minority.” It was more a process of discovering and owning the truth about her make-up as a human being.

    But I soon learned what a traumatic discovery that would be. Sally came out first to herself before God, then to her family, then to the seminary, then to the church. I accompanied her in that process. When the Presbyterian Church kicked her out of the ordination process, I was stricken; how could they say that Sally was not qualified to be a pastor? She was the best student in her class, and a better Christian than I ever expect to be. I knew that she had been gifted and called to the ministry. Then Sally was fired from her job as the Youth Director at the church, because someone sent the pastor a letter saying that she was gay. All I could think at the time was; this is absurd, this is evil. Sally is great with those kids; why would people assume she is not safe to work with them? Why did they think a heterosexual man or woman would be safer?
    Things came to a head for me, one morning; when I was standing in the kitchen, pouring a glass of orange juice, and listening to Sally cry her eyes out on the bed. She often did, in those days. Finally I went over to her, sat on the edge of the bed, and began to stroke her hair. I was filled with helpless rage at the world, and fierce tenderness for my friend. I heard myself saying, “Sally, I don’t know what being gay is. But if it’s part of who you are, and if God made you this way, I say I’m glad you are who you are, and I love who you are, and I wouldn’t want you to be any different.”
    As soon as those words were out of my mouth, I realized something. I had taken a stand. I knew where I stood on this issue. Sally did not deserve to be despised and rejected; it was the church that was wrong. After seminary I was appointed to serve Wallingford United Methodist Church in Seattle, which had decided some years earlier to become a reconciling congregation — that is, a congregation that publicly states it is open and affirming toward all people, regardless of sexual orientation. From that point on, my learning curve was steep! One of my first pastoral calls was to a young man who had just slit his wrists with a razor blade. He explained that he was a Christian and couldn’t deny it, that he was also gay and couldn’t deny that either, even though he had tried. He had been told he couldn’t be both. His father had called him “human garbage” and that “He was not fit to live”. All I could do, in response, was to get down on my knees and ask for forgiveness for the church, for communicating to this young man that he was beyond the reach of God’s love.
    In the five years that followed, I had many such experiences. I had young men with AIDS look up at me with hollow eyes and ask, “Do you think I am an abomination?” I sat with young men calling for their parents as they died, parents who never came. These experiences had a profound impact on me. I kept going back in my mind, again, and again, to my earliest Christian training; the message that God loves everyone, and that Jesus said to love your neighbor as yourself. He didn’t say, “love your neighbor, unless he or she happens to be homosexual.” He never said one word about homosexuality at all.
    Jesus spent his whole life going to the poor, the marginalized, the persons who were called unclean by their society, and demonstrating that God’s love included them. He treated them with compassion. His own harshest words were for the Pharisees who believed that they were righteous in God’s eyes, that others were not, and that God’s judgments and opinions were identical to their own.

    Which brings me to the question of what the Bible has to say about homosexuality. There is not time, this morning, to take up that question in depth — we will have plenty of time for that later, in ongoing Bible studies and discussion. But let me say a few things here. The world “homosexual” does not appear anywhere in the Bible — that word was not invented in any language, until the 1890s, when for the first time the awareness developed that there are people with a constitutional orientation toward their own sex.
    In the whole Bible, there are only seven brief passages that deal with homosexual behavior. The first is the story of Sodom and Gomorrah, which I preached on last fall, which is actually irrelevant to the issue. The attempted gang rape in Sodom has nothing to say about whether or not genuine love expressed between consenting adults of the same gender is legitimate.
    Neither does the passage in Deuteronomy 23, which refers to Canaanite fertility rites that have infiltrated Jewish worship. Passages in I Corinthians and I Timothy refer to male prostitution. Two often-quoted passages prohibiting male homosexual behavior are found in the book of Leviticus. Leviticus also stipulates that any man who touches a woman during her menstrual period is to be stoned to death, that adulterers are to be executed, that interracial marriage is sinful, that two types of cloth are not to be worn together, and certain foods must never be eaten.
    I know of no Christians, no matter how fundamentalist, who believe that Christians are bound to obey all of the Levitical laws. Instead we are driven to ask deeper questions about how to rightly interpret Scripture, how to separate the Word of God from cultural norms and prejudices — that is, how to separate the Message from the envelope in which it comes.
    The final Biblical text that deals with homosexual behavior is found in Paul’s letter to the Romans, in which he unequivocally condemns homosexual behavior. The background for his understanding was the common Roman practice of older males ‘keeping’ young boys for sexual exploitation, which he was right to condemn.
    But even if this were not the case, even if Paul knew about and condemned all forms of homosexual behavior, even the most loving, what then? Paul also told women not to teach, not to cut their hair, not to speak in church. Do we follow his teaching? He told slaves to obey their masters not once, but five times — are we prepared to say today, as Southern slave owners argued 150 years ago, that slavery is God’s will?
    The fact is, I am not a disciple of Paul. I am an admirer of Paul, but a disciple of Jesus Christ. Paul himself says that we should not follow him, but Christ alone. So I come back, again to the life and teaching of Jesus as the center of my faith. In that light all other biblical teaching must be critiqued. There are seven passages about homosexual behavior in the Bible, all of which are debatable as to their meaning for us today. There are thousands of references in the Bible that call us, as Jesus commands, to love our neighbor, to work for peace and reconciliation among all people, and to leave judgment to God.

    When I was pastor at Wallingford, I put biblical and intellectual foundations under my “heart” experience of knowing Sally. In those years I also came to appreciate a community in which both gay and straight Christians could worship together, serve on the Trustees, sing in the choir — simply be human together, trying to grow in the capacity to love God and neighbor without fear.

    As a result, when you ask me, “Is homosexuality a sin?” My answer today is: “No.” I may be wrong, and I ask God’s forgiveness if I am. But I don’t believe that sexual orientation has anything to do with morality, any more than being blond or tall or left-handed does. Homosexuals as well as heterosexuals can be involved in sexual sin, including promiscuity, infidelity, and abuse. And homosexuals as well as heterosexuals can love one another with faithfulness, tenderness, and integrity. The same standards of moral behavior should apply to Christians, straight and gay. That is what my life experience as a pastor has led me to believe.

    When a homosexual couple comes to meet with me in my office, then, and asks, “Will we be accepted in this church?” I can answer, “I will accept you.” But I can only speak for myself. What shall I say on behalf of our whole congregation?

    Shall I say, “Yes, you will be accepted here, as long as you aren’t open about who you are and who you love?” Shall I say, “Yes, you will be accepted here, but you may not serve in any leadership positions.” Shall I say, “Yes, you will be accepted here, but whatever you do, don’t hold hands in church. Only heterosexual couples are allowed to do that.” Shall I just say, “No.” Or, perhaps, simply, “Yes.”

    The only way we will arrive at a consensus on how this question should be answered is by taking time, over the coming year, to examine ourselves, study the Bible, think, read, pray, listen, and share our diverse life experiences with each other, asking together what God is calling this congregation to do and be.

  23. Christ died for our sins but only the ones we have stopped doing!

    • After attending two Bible colleges, studying the Bible daily for over 30 years, and being a Christian evangelist for over 30 years, I have never heard of anyone who is so lost regarding salvation as you. From where do you get such ridiculous, erroneous, and non-Biblical information? If people could quit sinning, then Jesus died for nothing. If you don’t sin, you must be living in a cave.

  24. Lev’ ch18 v22 and ch20v13 states clearly that it is!

  25. John Jovic on July 31, 2013 at 11:05 am said:

    If gay is a sin then he, the creator is great criminal

    • How?

      • Because he created you in his own image.

        • Charles on January 3, 2014 at 5:50 pm said:

          Yes, he created us in his own image.
          Adam and Eve were created perfect; mankind was created perfect in the image of God, we were never supposed to be away from God.

          However, we disobeyed God and ate of the fruit of the Knowledge of Good and Evil (read Genesis). Thus, sin entered the world and we became sinful beings.

          It is not God’s fault that we are the way we are, it is mankind’s own fault. God is not the criminal.

  26. Nicole on July 29, 2013 at 12:41 pm said:

    If there is any looking for inspiration to fight homosexuality, check out this interesting post. Read the short content and watch the videos.

    http://theboydsisters.blogspot.com/2013/07/inspirational-monday-richard-cohen.html

  27. emma on July 28, 2013 at 4:52 pm said:

    hello c:
    i’d like to thank you so much for writing this. it has really opened my eyes. I wasn’t born into a Christian family, but I toke it upon myself to become Christian. this has really helped me understand more. thank you. God Bless you.

  28. simon on July 12, 2013 at 5:46 pm said:

    I am a young bi-sexual christian, the aspect of hell terrifies me greatly, and I was put into so much confusion wondering why The Lord would condemn me because of something I cannot choose to be. There was a time when I was atheist and through personal expiriences I was saved by God, but still I worried, I didn’t care about other people’s thoughts, just his. Reading this has put the core of my being to rest and truly changed my life. I will still follow the bible as closely as possible, and be a good man. But I have you to thank for that. You say God had you write your book, and I believe you. Because unlike others who claim divine influence, you are the first I have seen to see it through The Lord’s eyes. God bless you Tim Finley.

  29. This page is spiritually informative. I admit that I am gay. I’m not perfect and I’ve been a Christian since a child. This gayness inside me burdens me a lot because it pushes me to do actions against to what I believe. When talking about reality, I can say that in my state right now if I will continue to apprehend my actions and die, I would say I will go to hell. Lustful, check, Homosexuality, check, Gay, check. Even if I’m gay, i tried not to let myself be pulled down and be enslaved by temptations. I would say it’s hard to fight when the urge tells you to do so and more likely hard if you don’t know Christ, meditate the Bible and living a life of cleanliness. Please pray for me…. I’m single and I don’t want to commit relationship just to satisfy my lusts. Please pray for me that I will be constantly following Christ and not by following my lusts.

    • admin on July 8, 2013 at 8:37 pm said:

      DanRave,

      I cannot judge your salvation, but you appear to be depending on your behavior rather than Jesus’ sacrifice and God’s resulting grace to save you. Your good behavior will not save you, as I will explain.

      First, I want to make a comment regarding you being a Christian since childhood. Oftentimes young children make an immature declaration of faith, when in reality they are too immature to understand the meaning of being a Christian. I am concerned that you have never comprehended the Good News or you would not believe that you are going to Hell. A knowledgeable Christian is able to rest in Jesus’ finished work on the Cross.

      Now, I want to tell you about myself so that you will know that you are receiving advice from someone who is very imperfect, and who understands your weakness. Then, I will explain why I know FOR CERTAIN that I will go to Heaven by presenting Bible passages that guarantee that I am saved.

      I am 67 years old and am very heterosexual. I have been happily married to a wonderful woman for 36 years. We have close to a perfect marriage. We live just four miles from the Lake Worth, Florida, public beach. We moved to Florida 12 years ago to be near the ocean. We go to the beach frequently, and I would be lying to you if I told you I didn’t lust. If my lust caused me to lose my salvation, I would have lost it years ago. I have many other imperfections.

      Like you, my spirit is willing but my flesh is weak. We are all weak in one way or another, but lust is high on the list. Unlike you, I don’t beat myself up for my weaknesses because I believe that is one of Satan’s many tools.

      In 1980, I was born again, at which time my personality was altered dramatically. I had many flaws including a bad temper, greed, narcissism, and a few more. Because of the finished work of Jesus Christ, I can now rest in the peace of know that God no longer counts my sins, and that he will guide me via his Spirit, who lives in me. I have been reconciled by the Blood of Jesus.

      “For God was in Christ, reconciling the world to himself, no longer counting people’s sins against them. And he gave us this wonderful message of reconciliation.” 2 Corinthians 5:19

      A person is not born again merely by believing that Jesus died on the Cross for their sins and rose again. Everyone in Christianity believes that. What makes a person a Christian is when he or she grasps that FACT Jesus guarantees everlasting life to all who simply TRUST ONLY IN HIM FOR THEIR SALVATION, which results in eternal life in Heaven (the current Heaven and the new Heaven that will be here on earth), and for the indwelling of the Holy Spirit. It is the indwelling of the Holy Spirit that makes one a Christian.

      I know that I am going to Heaven, but it not because of anything good that I do, but because of what Jesus did for me. I know that I am going to Heaven because the Bible tells me so:

      “I have written this to you who believe in the name of the Son of God, so that you may know you have eternal life.”1 John 5:13

      Notice in the verse above that it says…”so that you may know you have eternal life.” That is what is referred to as the Good News.

      In order for a person to receive forgiveness, there must be a blood sacrifice. The Old Testament blood sacrifices were temporary and only atoned for sin partially and for a short time, hence the need to repeat the sacrifices yearly. But when Christ entered the Most Holy Place, he did so to offer his own blood once for all time, making future sacrifices unnecessary. This is what Jesus meant by his dying words on the cross: “It is finished” (John 19:30). Never again would the blood of bulls and goats cleanse men from their sin. Only by accepting Jesus’ blood, shed on the Cross for the remission of sins, can we stand before God covered in the righteousness of Christ. That is so cool! Please read the following three passages.

      “But now God has shown us a way to be made right with him without keeping the requirements of the law, as was promised in the writings of Moses and the prophets long ago. We are made right with God by placing our faith in Jesus Christ. And this is true for everyone who believes, no matter who we are.

      For everyone has sinned; we all fall short of God’s glorious standard. Yet God, with undeserved kindness, declares that we are righteous. He did this through Christ Jesus when he freed us from the penalty for our sins. For God presented Jesus as the sacrifice for sin. People are made right with God when they believe that Jesus sacrificed his life, shedding his blood. This sacrifice shows that God was being fair when he held back and did not punish those who sinned in times past, for he was looking ahead and including them in what he would do in this present time. God did this to demonstrate his righteousness, for he himself is fair and just, and he declares sinners to be right in his sight when they believe in Jesus.

      Can we boast, then, that we have done anything to be accepted by God? No, because our acquittal is not based on obeying the law. It is based on faith. So we are made right with God through faith and not by obeying the law.” Romans 3:21-28

      “When people work, their wages are not a gift, but something they have earned. But people are counted as righteous, not because of their work, but because of their faith in God who forgives sinners.” Romans 4:4-5

      In the New Testament there are approximately 150 passages that deal with the doctrine of salvation. 115 of these declare that we must believe, and 35 declare that we must have faith (the word “faith” is a synonym for believing). By believing one places his trust in Jesus Christ’s finished work on the Cross. Therefore Scripture is misinterpreted if one confuses believing with anything that adds to belief. This divine message is not: “believe and pray,” “believe and confess sin,” “believe and ask forgiveness,” “believe and be baptized with water,” “believe and stop sinning,” “believe and attend church,” “believe and sing in the church choir,” “believe and tithe money,” “believe and persevere”, etc. Salvation is a FREE GIFT.

      If you ask Jesus to forgive you every time you sin, you are asking him to go to the Cross and bleed more. However, as a sinner, I constantly thank Jesus for this amazing and undeserved FREE GIFT. If I depended on my behavior to get me to Heaven, I would never make it. Here are a few passages:

      “He came into the very world he created, but the world didn’t recognize him. He came to his own people, and even they rejected him. But to all who believed him and accepted him, he gave the right to become children of God. They are reborn—not with a physical birth resulting from human passion or plan, but a birth that comes from God.

      So the Word became human and made his home among us. He was full of unfailing love and faithfulness. And we have seen his glory, the glory of the Father’s one and only Son.”
      John 1:10-14

      “My old self has been crucified with Christ. It is no longer I who live, but Christ lives in me. So I live in this earthly body by trusting in the Son of God, who loved me and gave himself for me.” Galatians 2:20

      “For God made Christ, who never sinned, to be the offering for our sin, so that we could be made right with God through Christ.” 2 Corinthians 5:21

      “God saved you by his grace when you believed. And you can’t take credit for this; it is a gift from God. Salvation is not a reward for the good things we have done, so none of us can boast about it.” Ephesians 2:8-9

      “For I am not ashamed of this Good News about Christ. It is the power of God at work, saving everyone who believes—the Jew first and also the Gentile. This Good News tells us how God makes us right in his sight. This is accomplished from start to finish by faith. As the Scriptures say, ‘It is through faith that a righteous person has life.’” Romans 1:16-17

      I don’t think that anyone can debate the passages above or what they prove. Jesus became sin for us so that we might become righteousness by trusting in his finished work. This purification is called justification, and it is a FREE GIFT of God for those who are humble enough to recognize that they can never become righteous enough by “works” to meet God’s holy standards. It is by GRACE alone that we are justified.

      God knew in eternity past what kind of lifestyle you would live, yet he loved you so much that he came to earth in the form of a man to die on a cross to pay for ALL of your sins. This does not give you an excuse to live a sinful life because there are consequences to how we live, but it is justification.

      Sadly, as an evangelist, I constantly hear theologically uneducated folks (including many who call themselves Christians) bolster that there are big sins, such as murder, adultery, and homosexuality. The Bible tells us that ALL sins are equal.

      “For the person who keeps all of the laws except one is as guilty as a person who has broken all of God’s laws.” James 2:10

      That is right – God does not differentiate between one sin and another. We mortals think cheating on our income tax is the American thing to do, but consider adultery as the act of a horrible person. In God’s eyes, both are equal, just as stealing a pencil from work is as sinful as murder. SIN IS SIN.

      If you think you may go to Hell, I suggest you read the following so that you can completely understand the enormity of God’s forgiveness.

      “Then he says, “I will never again remember
      their sins and lawless deeds.” Hebrews 10:17

      Jesus’ sacrifice on the Cross 2000 years ago was the final sacrifice and it is a gift, but you must believe it and accept it. Rather than being conscious of your sins, you should remember the Cross and say, “Thank you Lord Jesus for what you did for me.” If you take your eyes from yourself and center them on the Cross you will find yourself sinning less.

      The only unforgivable sin is rejecting the Holy Spirit, which is the same as rejecting Christ’s finished work.

      “So I tell you, every sin and blasphemy can be forgiven—except blasphemy against the Holy Spirit, which will never be forgiven. Anyone who speaks against the Son of Man can be forgiven, but anyone who speaks against the Holy Spirit will never be forgiven, either in this world or in the world to come.” Matthew 12:31-32, Jesus’ words

      While eternal life can NEVER be lost, there are negative consequences both now and in the next life who fail to persevere in faith and good works. It is because of what Jesus did for me that I try to live a life that pleases him. Yes, I fall short, and sometimes I take advantage of grace (particularly when I am at the beach).

      When you are a Christian the Jesus’ Holy Spirit lives in you and you live in Jesus. You must YIELD to the Holy Spirit as much as possible. This is referred to as continuous sanctification. As we grow in Christ, he grows in us. Sanctification is the second step in God’s three step plan.
      The first is justification, which I discussed earlier, then sanctification, and finally glorification.

      Sanctification, the second step, is different than justification. Sanctification is the growth process of the believer by lessening sinful behavior and living one’s life by yielding to the guidance of the Holy Spirit. This process begins after a person has been justified, and it is not instantaneous as is justification. Sanctification is a blend of the saved person’s efforts with the counseling of the Holy Spirit. I believe you are being sanctified because of your desire to please God. Your spirit is willing but your flesh is weak, just as the flesh of all humans.

      “He must become greater and greater, and I must become less and less.” John 3:30

      “So all of us who have had that veil removed can see and reflect the glory of the Lord. And the Lord—who is the Spirit—makes us more and more like him as we are changed into his glorious image.” 2 Corinthians 3:18

      Justification, the first step is what saves. When we are justified, it means that we are made righteous through grace because of the Blood of Christ. Just as sin is imputed in all of mankind, the Christian’s righteousness is imputed by God because of his love for us. It is a gift and it is NOT earned, it is not deserved, nor can it be lost. You receive righteousness by faith and faith alone.

      Glorification, the final step is when we will no longer struggle with sin issues. It takes place when Jesus returns. At the last trumpet, when Jesus comes, the saints will undergo a fundamental, instant transformation.

      “But let me reveal to you a wonderful secret. We will not all die, but we will all be transformed!” 1 Corinthians 15:51

      “Yet what we suffer now is nothing compared to the glory he will reveal to us later.” Romans 5:21

      “For our present troubles are small and won’t last very long. Yet they produce for us a glory that vastly outweighs them and will last forever!” 2 Corinthians 4:17

      The holiness of Jesus will be realized in us so that instead of being mortals burdened with sin nature, we will be changed into holy immortals, enjoying holy commune with him throughout eternity.

      This ends my discussion on the three steps of salvation. My suggestion to you is that you begin to understand the magnitude of Christ’s sacrifice for you on the Cross. The very moment you trust and accept Jesus as your only means of eternal life in Heaven, and you quit depending on your behavior, which are filthy rags, you will be born again.

      “Yes, everything else is worthless when compared with the infinite value of knowing Christ Jesus my Lord. For his sake I have discarded everything else, counting it all as garbage, so that I could gain Christ and become one with him. I no longer count on my own righteousness through obeying the law; rather, I become righteous through faith in Christ. For God’s way of making us right with himself depends on faith.” Philippians 3:8-9

      When you find yourself wanting to beat yourself up, or judging another Christian for his or her behavior, ask yourself this question…” WHAT SIN DID JESUS NOT DIE FOR?”

      Now that I have explained how one must be saved, I will try to offer you a little advice regarding your sexuality. It is obvious that you would prefer to leave that lifestyle. There have been millions of people who have, so you can also. We are all born of flesh and blood, which is weak.

      “Keep watch and pray, so that you will not give in to temptation. For the spirit is willing, but the body is weak!” Matthew 26:41, Jesus’ words

      “So I say, let the Holy Spirit guide your lives. Then you won’t be doing what your sinful nature craves.” Galatians 5:16

      Please do not confuse the Good News message of salvation with discipleship. It is the indwelling of the Holy Spirit that gives a person the desire and strength to be a disciple. Jesus gave his life for you so he could live through you via the Holy Spirit. This is the key to living a “Christian” life. It is an instant behavior change for some, but for others it is gradual.

      When you yield to the Holy Spirit, he will give you the desire and strength to do what he wants you to do. I have always found him to be kind and gentle because he understands our frailties, but he will always get his way. A good example of him getting his way is Saul’s resistance to be converted. He finally became Paul and was probably the most influential Christian who has ever lived. His ministry continues today. Jesus won.

      There are consequences to living a way that is not in accordance with God’s desire, so I am suggesting that you take your problem to the next level of human assistance.

      Primarily what I have told you in this letter is how to get to Heaven because that is my calling. Helping you to leave a lifestyle that is unpleasant to you necessitates people who are more qualified than I.

      As you know, a homosexual lifestyle may cause AIDS, discomfort in a family and discomfort in social settings. The lifestyle of an alcoholic has dreadful consequences. The drug addict will obviously pay a price for his addiction. A glutton may enjoy his or her food, but the result will be poor health and probably early death. The compulsive gambler may lose her or his family and end up living under a bridge.

      My qualifications are limited regarding advising someone how to change their lifestyle (other than teaching someone how to receive the indwelling of Jesus’ Spirit, which is the first step), so I will refer you to the resources much more qualified than I. to guide someone in leaving your lifestyle. There are people and organizations that love you, just as Jesus does, that can offer you the help that you need. Our church is a participant in a recovery program named “Celebrate Recovery,” which is in 19,000 churches worldwide. Their website is http://www.celebrate recovery.com

      I can also recommend that you visit http://www.faithalone.org and http://www.basicgospel.net.

      Blessings,

      Tim Finley

      • Anonymous on May 24, 2014 at 8:15 am said:

        Thanks for the break down of the sanctification, justification, and glorification. I have battled with this fleshly demon for sooo long that I am beyond exhausted. One thing The Father has me to understand that it is a process and not to give up for that is a sin itself as well. But to know and remember that the ultimate award is not received by the swift or strong but the individual whom endured all that He has allowed to in their life time. You only get one terrestrial life finish it right to live the promised celestial life.

        Thanks again Mr. Tim for answering your calling upon your life and following Christ. Be blessed, Be strong, and Be very much encouraged. God bless.

        • Dear Anonymous,

          No thanks are necessary. It is my calling.

          We all have our crosses to bear, and we all get exhausted. I am 68, and seven months ago I received the startling news that my only son, Tom, had passed suddenly. He was found dead on his bathroom floor. I was in disbelief. We had a disagreement two years before his death, and I had lessened my communication with him because I was a stubborn and proud old man. I cannot go back and change what I did, so I struggle with that daily. That is the bad news.

          The GOOD NEWS is that Tom accepted Jesus as his savior many years ago, so I have the comfort of knowing where he is and knowing I will be with him again someday.

          When my exhaustion from beating myself up seems like more of a burden than I can carry, I put it on the Cross with Jesus and ask him to carry it for me while I renew my strength via his Holy Spirit. You can do that also. He is kind and gentle.

          ICL,

          Tim Finley

  30. Bryce on June 18, 2013 at 5:12 am said:

    So what about those people who enjoy shrimp doesn’t it also say that shellfish is an abomination ?

    Anyway as it has been stated before the original word used for homosexual is not the same as the modern view of homosexuality. Also since men were not allowed to marry wouldn’t any sexual act be considered adultery . Maybe that’s the actual sin ?

    The word sodomite or sodomy should be defined a person who is or the act of being greedy, rude, and/or lazy.

  31. Oh my on June 2, 2013 at 11:39 am said:

    It’s seems as though I’ll be going to hell with my girlfriend then!

    I just hope that hell as good parties.

    • Sir Davis on June 11, 2013 at 9:50 pm said:

      And no, hell was described as nothing like partying. More like fire and brimstone, gnashing at the teeth forever. . Sounds like fun? Not to me..May GOD bless you and ur soulmate.

    • It doesn’t seem right for gay people to ‘burn in hell’ because they were made to be that way. If god didn’t want you to be gay then he would have made you that way. God made you in his own image, so if your gay, I don’t think you should ‘burn in Hell’ for it.

  32. God truly loves us all. No doubt about that. I read this entire article and is so. Very true. Excepty for one thing.ii believe that it is close to the very end of this article that the minister. States that jesus has already saved us from our sins. And when we pray to god. He will cleanse ous from our sins. After we r cleansed why would u goo back to what u asked god to cleanse u from just because u boelieve that i can do whatever sin because jesus has already died on the cross and saved me from whateve okayr i plan to do wrong. Makes no sense does it? If it were

    • Sir Davis on June 11, 2013 at 9:48 pm said:

      And that would be called falling into the temptation of satan even after just asking God to forgive you for your sins. God gave us time, if we dont have it together by the time Jesus returns, the pits of hell is where those will spend ETERNITY (FOREVER). At the end of the day, its your choice.

  33. Good questions Myana. The answer is FAITH

  34. First, let me start off with I have questions. I am a homosexual male and I am in a committed relationship with another male. We love each other dearly, attend a gay friendly church, and consider ourselves followers of Christ. My problem becomes with the scripture as follows:

    1. Some of the scriptures have other commandments/laws such as leviticus that include many practices that today would be considered inhumane, such as if a man and woman commit adultry, they shall both be stoned to death. And etc…. Why do you not address these scriptures and instead have focused on the “gay” commandment?
    2. Did the bible actually have a word for homosexuality? Before you answer, think about this. I have done several researches and found the answer is no. But there are several instances where the practice of the time the bible was written included when a country overtook another country, it was customary for the winning soldiers to rape the loosing soldiers in an act of embarrassing and down trodding the men. As women in the bible have always been considered sub-par with the males, this custom belittled the men. Secondly, several pagan religions included male prositutes to “service” the priest. Was there any reference to, other than sexual, to equate two men who love each other?
    3. Yes God made a man, Adam and God made a woman, Eve. How is that a basis for any judgement against homosexuality? You could use that same arguement against men and women who can’t concieve. What I understand here is the fact that the world needed to be populated. So hence, go out and reproduce. Do we really have a problem today with population reduction or not enough people?

    Thanks

    • Damola on April 20, 2013 at 8:20 am said:

      I also agree with you that they didn’t use the word “homosexuality” but they did say ” If a man has sexual relations with a man as one does with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They are to be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads” or something like that. The bible has different translation but the same subject matter, and in this case it is homosexuality. Also if you check the new testaments you will find out that a lot of these laws from Leviticus are rewritten. The new testament teaches us virtues like forgiveness, humility, patience. Maybe all of the laws from Leviticus weren’t rewritten, but things like forgiveness that was taught in the new testament cancels some out! (like the stoning and raping thing you said, not homosexuality though, until you stop)
      About the male prostitutes servicing the priest, obviously not all pastors and priests are good or who they claim to be, but that does not make what they do any less a sin. Just because we may not follow all the rules in the bible, doesn’t mean they are not sins, we are not perfect!. Also about this male prostitute, there is a BIG difference between LOVE and LUST!.In that case that was LUST.
      About the men and women that cant conceive? I don’t think God made anybody barren, so its not like a thing you were born with. It is an outcome of mans sin. (like having sex before marriage, You may just catch some nasty disease that doesn’t enable you to have children). So Yes Its is still a VERY GOOD base when talking about this issue.

    • Sir Davis on June 11, 2013 at 9:42 pm said:

      In the Bible, it states that men sleeping with men and women sleeping with women is considered a sin. Adam and eve, not adam and adam. Regardless of how you put it, but I don’t and will not judge. You will have to learn anyway that GOD will have you obtain the knowledge. No sin is greater than the other and I understand happiness. But I asked myself if GOD would be please with doing such actions. And since they’re soo many temptations(satan), GOD gave us free will to choose either to do evil or Godly things. It states whats wrong and whats right. Humble yourself, seek whats right, and you will automatically start chipping away the evil in your life. Thus, being born again…We ALL have to do so.

  35. I’m 14 and I am very religious I question my self to the max of the bible and the holy verses that are written in the bible this is a good I mean very good websites for people like myself that wants to know and do not have to search for it in the bible ….. How is god made if he was first and only man ? How is he born without no earth being made?

    • Andrew on July 11, 2013 at 9:38 pm said:

      But He wasn’t the first and neither is He the only. God in the pre existence along with the council of the gods devised a plan. A plan where His spirit children could come to earth and learn to be gods and be exalted just like God did and to live with him.

      “As man is, God once was; as God is, man may become.”

      • I feel so sorry that you have been blinded to the truth, probably by your parents. Please see the section on this website titled, “PRUNE THE FAMILY TREE.” Mormonism has been proven by “Mormon” archeologists to be false as they were trying to prove it to be true. Joseph Smith has been proven to be a liar. Please get an easy to read New Testament and throw your Mormon books in the trash where they belong. Begin to read the true Word of God and find an orthodox Christian church to help you leave the cult into which you have become a slave. I will be praying for you.

  36. Zwelihle on March 31, 2013 at 5:23 pm said:

    I’m a christian dat luv nd respect god so much.my problem is dat i’m gay and i’ve been praying and fasting for this devil spirit 2 cm out of my life.Plz pray 4 me da devil is a liar he will never prosper in my life.I have read wht da man of god hs written and it is all true.I’m from South Africa nd my name is Zwelihle Thwala.God continue 2 bls u al,sty in his rightfull hand al da tym nd be peace be with you forever and ever AMEN.

    • Justin Kubas on April 3, 2013 at 11:04 pm said:

      I will pray for you Zwelihle. I hope you truly love Jesus, because through him, I believe you can overcome this temptation. Know that you are forgiven, brother!

    • unknown girl on September 2, 2013 at 3:07 pm said:

      I feel you brother. I am a lesbian myself and christian. I do belive in god and his plan for us all and I feel trapped like you. I was born with this desire and sometimes I wish I was never born and I ask god every day and night why did he bring me into this world knowing I will be a sinner, knowing this sin is something I cannot control and I have tried many times its always there. I am greatful I found this website it really helped me out. I brought the book as well and will start reading it. Now I don’t have to think that god is discusted by me and assamed by me. It is very hard being surrounded by many ppl includeing my family who juge me and tell me every day that I will burn in hell for my sins. Sigh, I know im wrong but its a desire I fell is out of my control and I will suffer the consiquenses the day I die. Im aware of my sin but I am not a bad person and I do belive in god and his word.

  37. Selena Lomas on March 15, 2013 at 10:15 am said:

    I like how you spelled it out and put the verses in there. How could it be more clear? And your right no sin is greater than the next. Us as Christians need to pray for people who are enslaved to sin. We are not anyone to decide how God deals with their sin. Thanks for sharing.

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